http://pyro.tribe.net Tribe.net. Local Connections http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/acc5392a-a144-4277-a760-e84cf42b0a74#35091d9c-25ee-4b0d-8697-3e18bd7d6c00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APcbKoAF3KA Sat, 07 Apr 2012 21:58:20 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/acc5392a-a144-4277-a760-e84cf42b0a74#35091d9c-25ee-4b0d-8697-3e18bd7d6c00 Richard 2012-04-07T21:58:20Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/aa81f788-f857-47f7-a15c-e56664c8392d#97a6fd62-035e-437b-9869-2792d45e782b Trick Concepts also has some amazing collapsible staffs (staves). Though they are $115, the quality is well worth it. No rattle, no flex, can't even tell its collapsible (which is how it should be). I have had mine for 2 years, and I definitely do not play easy on it, and it has held up immaculately without issue. Highly recommended - http://www.trickconcepts.com/Collapsible-Staff-P99C11.aspx And they have also released a version of this technology for double staffs (that seperate in the middle instead of from the ends) - http://www.trickconcepts.com/Collapsible-Double-Staff-Sold-Individually-P1616C11.aspx Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:48:05 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/aa81f788-f857-47f7-a15c-e56664c8392d#97a6fd62-035e-437b-9869-2792d45e782b Mike 2011-10-26T18:48:05Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/65b032d1-3976-4961-ad24-ff58613ad0c4#2c2140cb-ac86-449f-821e-f8223ec43000 http://organic-juggling.blogspot.com/ When: 19. - 21.08.2011 / 3 Day Convention / Friday 11 AM TO Sunday 8 PM Where: Environmental Project “Natural Island Dragonmill” Zur Mühle in 04769 Schwerta near Oschatz between Dresden and Leipzig, near Collmvulcan. Phone: 034362-44390 / info(att)drachenmuehle.de Participation Fee: 32 Euro (Kids from 6-14: 22 Euro) 40 Euro (Kids: 22 Euro) On Friday: Tickets for all three days Included in participation fee are: 2x Organic Breakfast (Sa a. Su), 2x Organic Dinner (Fr a. Sa.), Camping Location, Entrance, Workshops and Program Transfer money to: Christian Schembritzki, GLS Bank Bochum, Account Number: 4012809200, Bank Number: 43060967, Subject: Organic Juggling Program * Juggling &Acrobatics& Slackline ink. 150 m Slackline :-) * Kids space & Body painting * Fire juggling & Workshops * Cinema & Campfire & many more Info: We are an ecological Project located next to a nature reserve * Early registration would be great, please register * Drinks and Snacks can be purchased at the Dragonbar * You can sleep in the barn or in the garden with you own tent (Please bring Sleeping Back, Sleeping mat, Hammock, etc.) * Please bring organic products or purchase here at a good price (e.g. food, shampoo, toothpaste) * Please no dogs (for the safety of our animals) * Please respect, that the “Naturinsel” is a place free of mobile phones and cigarettes! But we do have designated places for smoking and using mobiles If you want to help organize the Juggling Convention, you are more then welcome! Please contact us till the beginning August ! Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:59:50 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/65b032d1-3976-4961-ad24-ff58613ad0c4#2c2140cb-ac86-449f-821e-f8223ec43000 christian 2011-07-12T20:59:50Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#63fe008f-ac87-4e6a-a7db-d230cb6d50ee Okay, so.... Paraffin is biologically neutral, it's just a long chain hydrocarbon with no bio-active bits. Even if you drink it, only about 5% absorbs into you body. Because there's no way to process it IN the body, it tends to just coat the surfaces of the skin when it comes in contact. Your lungs are just a very specialized surface of your skin: very thin, allowing gasses to pass back and forth. When your lung tissue gets coated with oil, it can't move CO2 out or O2 in, thus you can cause part or even all of your lung tissue to stop working until the cilia have a chance to manually remove the slick. Iso is biologically active, like ethanol. Your body can process it, move it through the blood, and most importantly: eliminate it. Yes, inhaling it is bad, but only because it absorbs in the lungs and the burst of it hitting your blood stream can make you a little queazy. Coating the lining of your mouth does NOT work. Things like Buttermilk and Olive oil are also biologically active and too quickly get absorbed by the body. And here's the catch too. Fatty acids are built a LOT like paraffin with an active end that makes them biologically useful. this active end opens doors in the digestive system that allows the long, neutral end to slip in. These doors stay open for something like an hour. So if there's paraffin in your mouth, stomach or intestines within that hour gap, you could be absorbing as much as 60% of the paraffin instead of 5%. Fatty acids includes the stuff in milk, veggie oils, or one of these... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:54:14 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#63fe008f-ac87-4e6a-a7db-d230cb6d50ee Tedward 2011-07-07T16:54:14Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#35b2626e-9b92-4a52-84e9-d5c875a29492 I was thinking about using isopropyl alcohol but I read somewhere that it is like paraffin, you can't, or not supposed to, inhale while its in your mouth. I'm kind of a hypochondriac, so I'm looking for the safest fuel for accidental inhalation and/or ingestion. I'm going to try my best to refrain from both, but it's a good thing to look out for. See, I thought of an idea this morning that I could hold buttermilk in my mouth until its time to take a sip of the alcohol, to perhaps coat the lining of my mouth atleast somewhat, limiting alcohol consumption. And it's literally going to be a sip, to the point of one blow-out is going to get 90% of the liquid from my mouth. I remember reading somewhere on here about buttermilk, but I think it was someone explaining it to be a myth. Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:31:06 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#35b2626e-9b92-4a52-84e9-d5c875a29492 Jake 2011-07-07T15:31:06Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#f8d2be56-d8ba-4600-b1c4-70b6a4680f5e Any amount of time you hold 191 in your mouth will absorb 1-4 shots worth of alcohol through the skin. So, you may be legally drunk immediately after. If you're preforming with fire, insured, afterwards, your insurance will be null. If you can possibly manage it, 70% or 91% isopropyl alcohol will give you a bigger fireball than ethanol, won't make you drunk (WILL kill all bacteria in your mouth) and will evaporate right away. Plus you can spin after the fireball without nullifying your insurance. Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:14:37 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#f8d2be56-d8ba-4600-b1c4-70b6a4680f5e Tedward 2011-07-07T08:14:37Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#6c7f3c14-7b99-4949-976e-73a9444db487 Hello, I just joined tribe.net and the Fire tribe to ask this question. It's been asked before; I've seen the other topics on this tribe, but I want to to know what you all think about me using 190 proof alcohol for fire breathing. I am part of an annual outdoor play called, "The Aracoma Story." Its basically a love story based around true events, kind of historical fiction. Anyways, there is a torture scene which calls for me to breathe one breath of fire. I don't want to use paraffin because of the chemical pneumonia risk and kerosene, etc, because of the carcinogens. The guy last year was a first time breather and used 190 proof alcohol and had no problems. I was also thinking going with edible biodiesel. In addition to that, I'm also thinking about getting the director to use 151 proof, plus mixing it (well, not technically) with vegetable oil. Since I have long hair, and yes, I'm a guy, a guy very savvy in special effects is ordering a liquid substance that is fire-retardant for my hair. I may consider using this for my chin/face as well. It is only one blast per night, so theres no risk of a drunken mishap on blast two/three/four. Anyways, I wanted to know what you experienced breathers/spinners think. Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:00:41 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/73a8dc5c-5245-4f5d-be7e-31538fc1865a#6c7f3c14-7b99-4949-976e-73a9444db487 Jake 2011-07-07T07:00:41Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/fd7ce054-45c9-405b-8e2f-b7ce4cba3488#48b702fc-cec0-49a5-8cb7-aff391b92a48 Okay, 1) check the dates. It's like 4 years since this conversation was active. Most of these people have left Tribe. 2) If you have questions about a specific fuel, ask them. 3) Rarely do people find the time to gather up this kind of data for you. Luckily, the folks at NAFAA have done it. http://nafaa.pbworks.com/w/page/4985230/FuelBusters Thu, 26 May 2011 17:18:05 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/fd7ce054-45c9-405b-8e2f-b7ce4cba3488#48b702fc-cec0-49a5-8cb7-aff391b92a48 Tedward 2011-05-26T17:18:05Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/fd7ce054-45c9-405b-8e2f-b7ce4cba3488#f4c0d603-8650-4bf2-baae-fc7b47e069fb ok, so i have found this dicussion fascinating, but a bit confusing. can we get a list with details happening, maybe? at least of the types of fuel that have been discussed so far? Name - Aliases - Availability - common, uncommon, special order Cost - high, medium, low Pro's - Con's - Possible Health Risks - Tips for use - i'm a casual fire playperson, i've was using kerosene, but it's horrible stuff, so i've stopped. been looking for a alternative i like, so i'm fairly interested. i've also seen coloured alchohol and lamp oil, and of the three have to give kerosene the best light production and ability to stay lit, both for weather and motion. Thu, 26 May 2011 15:06:26 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/fd7ce054-45c9-405b-8e2f-b7ce4cba3488#f4c0d603-8650-4bf2-baae-fc7b47e069fb Iain 2011-05-26T15:06:26Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#c3a9718b-252e-4e96-8eba-8b207b43beb4 True dat, Tedward, true dat. Wed, 18 May 2011 21:11:41 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#c3a9718b-252e-4e96-8eba-8b207b43beb4 ^Rhino! 2011-05-18T21:11:41Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#ffd83b26-c2a4-4503-bf17-9677dcc39ddf Or start closing my eyes when stuff hits the fan.... Wed, 18 May 2011 17:19:13 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#ffd83b26-c2a4-4503-bf17-9677dcc39ddf Tedward 2011-05-18T17:19:13Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#51f6dbb8-f403-4194-9da9-36c6602c9e9c "On the other hand, my eyes are brown, so I could be full of it... " Naw, just means you have to lay off the chocolate-covered oreos for a while......... Wed, 18 May 2011 15:23:35 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#51f6dbb8-f403-4194-9da9-36c6602c9e9c ^Rhino! 2011-05-18T15:23:35Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/88f061ad-3cc2-471d-995b-e8d7a58667ab#bbddd9e3-e152-49dc-9e05-e88a64222600 Hellfire Club - A Steampunk Gathering of gargantuan magnatude! Saturday March 26th VIP 6pm, all others 8:30pm In an opulent historical landmark in Downtown San Jose, CA The call goes out to all to gather for the "cause", a floating three story Victorian house, a humanpowered Parlor Car, a trolly... We gather to form alliances, partake in exotic rituals, and to raise monitary fundage for our beloved brethern... the Neverwas Haul. No host Absinthe Bar Delicious morsels Hookah Lounge Girls with Accordians! Sideshow Games - Monkies to the Moon Museum of Oddities A handCrank Victrola DJ A Flaming Zeppelin - Oh the Humanity! Steam powered Trolly rides or Flame Thrower Couch Tarot Readings by Madame I Cigars under starlight Scandalous Activities All-Night-Long! Hellfire Club $20.00 (entry time 8:30pm) VIP Dinner$75.00 (entry time 6:00pm) VIP Package - just a few seats left! Dinner, Absinthe Cocktail, Cigar Lounge experience, early entry to the Upper Lounge, Hookah & Baklava in the smoking lounge, an evening ride aboard the Trolley, and a Hellfire Club FOUNDING member pin & certificate! VIP Dinner Menu - Arugula and Spring Greens Salad with gorgonzola and pear; Potato Leek Soup; Prime Rib, Yorkshire Pudding, and Sauteed Vegetables; Tiramisu and Port for dessert; coffee and tea (a cup of brown joy!) Hellfire Club (limited to 62 members) Entry into the Hellfire Club, entertainment, sideshow games, No host Absinthe Bar, Cigar Lounge, Hookah Lounge and a Hellfire Club membership pin to the first 30 though the door. Ticket gets you one food item or drink. Drinks & Small Plate Items - $5 each Over 21 only. Steampunkery or similiar, no street clothes please. To order your tickets, contact Lady Impetuous at kathyohare01@comcast.net or order tickets on PayPal with that same address. Call 925-254-7643 if you have any questions. Location will be sent to you upon your ticket purchase. Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:26:39 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/88f061ad-3cc2-471d-995b-e8d7a58667ab#bbddd9e3-e152-49dc-9e05-e88a64222600 Miranda 2011-03-23T19:26:39Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#8e8624d7-54a5-454e-8fc4-b997c7301f5a Sorry, but I'm just not connecting the two. If anyone is demeaning the efforts of people in the Conclave, it's the ones that still treat them as a "distraction" to the waiting time needed to burn the Man. This isn't something "in the past" but an ongoing problem. And when exactly did you check your sense of humor at the door? Sun, 20 Mar 2011 05:11:05 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#8e8624d7-54a5-454e-8fc4-b997c7301f5a Tedward 2011-03-20T05:11:05Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#75cec940-5116-4091-b7d7-a839322a18d0 I think you kind of just proved the original point I was nicely trying to say. You appear to have a vendetta because of negative past experiences you've had with the conclave. I think the nonclave is a good idea making fire dancing during the ceremony prior to the man burn accessible to those who can not commit to the conclave. However, the way you are approaching this with your tone on the website is definitely demeaning to everyone in the conclave. If you want to create a new group with no drama, leave it in the past. Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:35:31 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#75cec940-5116-4091-b7d7-a839322a18d0 Paul 2011-03-20T01:35:31Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#563259c1-8237-448b-b259-5df78e42e3ec Very inspirational. Thing is, by equating the "Way" to God, I couldn't help but see this as the beginning of just another religion. The new scientology if you will. First step: inspire and gather. Second step: add dogma. Third Step: utilize the flock for unrelated purpose. On the other hand, my eyes are brown, so I could be full of it... Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:47:50 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#563259c1-8237-448b-b259-5df78e42e3ec Tedward 2011-03-19T22:47:50Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#6acc5cf4-9748-4e75-b33a-1476278fb2f7 During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits & troublemakers, all you free-spirits & pioneers... Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you... Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:12:11 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/7017b32e-ed10-427d-affc-8eb6e419a984#6acc5cf4-9748-4e75-b33a-1476278fb2f7 Siz'L 2011-03-19T20:12:11Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#ec27c634-9008-439b-814b-facbf9e28e98 Bashing the efforts?!?! How do you figure. I ran 9 conclave groups and got to see people's time get cut short, equipment trampled, poisoned, blown up, denied access, and a host of unbalanced treatments laid out to people who just wanted to perform. If YOU want to take the idea of freeing yourself from that burden as a insult, then go ahead, but don't try to slander this effort with your personal implications. Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:36:57 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#ec27c634-9008-439b-814b-facbf9e28e98 Tedward 2011-03-14T07:36:57Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#de1f2f27-2f61-4451-9b9c-9478bdfb0f39 So essentially the website is copied from the original conclave information page from burningman.com, however the nonconclave.info isn't actually associated with the burning man website/url. The only differences here is that text has been changed? I understand the lure of this idea for people who can not commit the time/resources/effort to being in the conclave, but the tone does not come off as neutral and even though I get the impression that the snarkiness it is meant for the organizers of the conclave, it's also bashing the efforts of people who want to be in the conclave. I guess when it comes down to it, it is Burning Man, so why take ourselves too seriously? Good luck, I'm interested to see how this turns out. Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:30:04 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#de1f2f27-2f61-4451-9b9c-9478bdfb0f39 Paul 2011-03-14T01:30:04Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#6eb5f4f2-0831-48cc-88ab-3942a8efdaa6 Check the website, should have all the info you need. then check the green bar to the right, there's a link to the lamplighters there. Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:58:08 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#6eb5f4f2-0831-48cc-88ab-3942a8efdaa6 Tedward 2011-03-11T23:58:08Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#d41bff51-7405-4068-b101-2ee2784eccc0 tell me more, im also looking to volunteer as a lamp lighter can you hook a brother up Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:08:26 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#d41bff51-7405-4068-b101-2ee2784eccc0 Richard 2011-03-11T22:08:26Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#0161584b-0ff3-4067-bd21-0c8de74b5f53 Tired of jumping through hoops, getting pushed around, peeing in public, then dodging 20,000 tripping partyers just for a front seat to "The Burn"? Maybe you'e just looking for a little more room for that giant fire project. Join NONclave and get all the room you want with none of the hassle! http://NONclave.info Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:27:29 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/50e12ab9-b7e8-4805-942f-e98f9de32905#0161584b-0ff3-4067-bd21-0c8de74b5f53 Tedward 2011-03-11T06:27:29Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/81699d04-f4b4-4ec0-b7e6-73fa736f3e79#60108d33-78b8-4a9d-8377-dd8809b50c46 Depends on the context. I've only spun naked a handful of times, I would never do it on a stage for a competition. Wait a minute, I take that back, my fire striptease got me into the final round of fire idol... but I didn't do the full monty! But seriously, it can be very liberating if you're out at burning man spinning deep playa for a sunrise in the buff, or on a bunch of rocks above a hot tub for a similarly disrobed crowd. Those aren't just appropriate times, they're fantastic! But up on a stage for a gig... thats just sleazy. Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:22:18 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/81699d04-f4b4-4ec0-b7e6-73fa736f3e79#60108d33-78b8-4a9d-8377-dd8809b50c46 Nick 2011-02-04T18:22:18Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/81699d04-f4b4-4ec0-b7e6-73fa736f3e79#19e44ffc-f9fc-4d0d-815d-73744ee798ab I think the naked part just doens't add anything to the spinning. At least the pictures don't give me that idea. I love to feel the wind on my skin and feel one with nature (that's what walking around naked does for me) but firedancing naked just makes it weird for me. So no, naked fire dancing in public goes in the slutty category for me. Even a thong (also for men) and bikini would be more attractive to me. Fire dancing in as little as that shows that you have the guts to wear less, can give the free idea ànd doesn't distract that much from your technique. However, if you're dancing for yourself, not on stage and being naked makes you feel awesome: go for it! Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:38 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/81699d04-f4b4-4ec0-b7e6-73fa736f3e79#19e44ffc-f9fc-4d0d-815d-73744ee798ab Tink 2011-01-25T14:36:38Z http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/49660382-cc3b-4c26-915c-d0cbab791757#e148f33a-691f-4632-9415-4357f24e8ca9 I will be coming to town in February to teach and would love to bring along my fire wands. Where can you light up in Broward? Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:29:04 GMT http://pyro.tribe.net/thread/49660382-cc3b-4c26-915c-d0cbab791757#e148f33a-691f-4632-9415-4357f24e8ca9 yvette 2011-01-25T10:29:04Z